A post was recently made on this subreddit about a large scale vehicle scam site, but the post has been deleted so I have re-written it so that people can be warned about this scam. Another post was made [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/comments/mtnt55/prime_vehicle_traders/) (archived: https://web.archive.org/web/20210419164121if_/https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/comments/mtnt55/prime_vehicle_traders/) and the scammers showed up in the comments again defending their obvious scam. Here is an article from the FTC explaining vehicle vendor scams: https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/blog/2019/06/put-brakes-phony-online-car-sales. Basically, you’ll meet someone on a site like Craigslist and they will claim that their vehicle is on consginment with one of these scam sites. They will direct you to the site, and if you proceed you will be contacted by someone from the site to finalize the transaction. This is a type of [bogus escrow scam](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogus_escrow), where the scammers try to catch you off-guard by directing you to a seemingly legitimate website. The main scam site is Prime Vehicle Traders (primevehicletraders.com), but the scammers also operate the following sites: DTC Motors Group (dtcmotorsgroup.com), Autos By Price (autosbyprice.com), Roscoe Automotive and Consignment (www.roscoeauto.com), and Car Country Auto (carcountryauto.com). Autos by Price is also connected to a fake job scam: https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/comments/kw22sh/autos_by_price_online_car_dealer_job_offer_scam/ (archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20210122190416if_/https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/comments/kw22sh/autos_by_price_online_car_dealer_job_offer_scam/). If you research these sites you may find legitimate companies of the same name, but the scammers are impersonating those legitimate companies. The address on Prime’s site is a huge office building in New York City, but they do not offer a suite number.
The following sites host false reviews for primevehicletraders.com. Most of these seem to have been registered by the scammers, but a few may be compromised sites. Some obviously hacked sites have not been listed here, in those cases the scammers seemed to use Coldfusion exploits to upload a scam page, as most hacked sites shared “/cf_scripts/” or “/ajax/filemanager/” in the URL.
localtradesmendirectory.com (registered 2019-10-21)
sitesellforums.com (registered 2019-10-21)
bodycorporateforum.com (registered 2019-10-21)
topreviewsz.info (registered 2019-10-21)
ecommerceflorida.com (registered 2019-10-21)
forumsales.net (registered 2019-10-21)
helplocaltrade.org (registered 2019-10-21)
supercitysales.net (registered 2019-10-21)
mytradebuyer.com (registered 2019-10-21)
windycitysales.net (registered 2019-10-21)
citybestpicks.com (registered 2019-10-21)
rxtrustsales.com (registered 2019-10-21)
corporatereviews.net (registered 2019-10-21)
forumtraderbolsa.com (registered 2019-10-21)
livechatreviews.org (registered 2019-10-21)
americatradeonline.com (registered 2019-10-21)
forprivatesalesite.com (registered 2019-10-21)
detectivesforum.com (registered 2019-10-21)
companyprofilepage.com (registered 2019-10-21)
top-tradereviews.com (registered 2019-10-21)
reviewsguide.org (registered 2019-10-21)
localecommerce.org (registered 2019-10-21)
olymptradereviews.pro (registered 2019-10-21)
vehicleowners.net (registered 2020-04-11)
motorcontractors.com (registered 2020-04-11)
vehicleyards.com (registered 2020-04-11)
motordepots.org (registered 2020-04-11)
vehicledepots.com (registered 2020-04-11)
bestvehicles.net (registered 2020-04-11)
vehiclesdepot.net (registered 2020-04-11)
yardlocally.com (registered 2020-04-11)
simplelocally.com (registered 2020-04-11)
preownedmotors.org (registered 2020-04-11)
boatingabc.com (registered 2020-04-11)
supremevehicles.net (registered 2020-04-11)
motorsgarages.com (registered 2020-04-11)
ownedmotors.com (registered 2020-04-11)
privateowned.org (registered 2020-04-11)
vehiclesowners.com (registered 2020-04-11)
ownedvehicles.net (registered 2020-04-11)
vehiclecontractors.com (registered 2020-04-11)
garagevehicles.com (registered 2020-04-11)
privatecitysales.site (registered 2018-05-13)
citysales.trade (registered 2018-05-13)
localsales.website (registered 2018-05-13)
localsales.site (registered 2018-05-13)
privatesales.site (registered 2018-05-13)
privatesales.website (registered 2018-05-13)
popularsales.win (registered 2018-05-13)
popularsales.site (registered 2018-05-13)
localsales.space (registered 2018-05-13)
popularsales.bid (registered 2018-05-13)
privatecitysales.bid (registered 2018-05-13)
privatecitysales.trade (registered 2018-05-13)
citysales.bid (registered 2018-05-13)
localsales.trade (registered 2018-05-13)
bbb.ae.org (fake BBB site using a UAE domain: https://www.easyname.com/en/ae.org-domain)
motorstradedepot.com (registered 2020-09-26)
vehiclestradedepot.com (registered 2020-09-26)
elite-chat.club (registered 2018-10-03)
commerceflorida.org (registered 2018-07-16)
bestpricestoreonline.com (registered 2017-08-28)
toppickreviews.com (registered 2018-01-04)
proautomotivedepot.com (registered 2020-03-10)
tradebuysell.org (registered 2018-11-03)
usedvehiclesyards.com (registered 2020-04-28)
usedvehiclescontractors.com (registered 2020-04-28)
gctrade.net (registered 2018-11-02)
autodepotcenter.com (registered 2020-09-27)
greatest.trade (regstered 2018-07-01)
iqtradeonline.com (registered 2017-01-25)
**Scripts used by the scammers**
Hi, All options are in working order. There are no structural or electrical problems. The interior is in nice condition. No mechanical issues at all. She starts easily and restart easily all the day. There aren’t any service indicators or warning lights on (meets description and pictures). All service records and owner manuals are available. Clean and clear title, no liens (ready for a quick sale). Please check the link below to see the pictures, specifications/description, a summary inspection report, etc.: https://www.primevehicletraders.com/inventory/205535/ The boat can be seen at the local PVT warehouse (I suppose you know Prime Vehicle Traders). I left it in their lot because we got a great deal on a different one (keeping them both is not an option, have to pay for the other soon). Also due to the COVID-19 pandemic I prefer to avoid personal meeting, therefore we have signed a consignment agreement with these guys for its sale. For inspection/pick up and payment, all you have to do is to contact PVT and schedule an appointment. All their contact info are available on the website (phone numbers, live chat, office locations, etc.), in the contact us section. Just provide them my name as seller when contacting them and they will provide further assistance. In case you want to have it shipped, as I have membership with PVT ( I’ve bought through them before and I’m buying the new boat through them too), I can ship up to 500 miles free of charge (over, extra fees will apply, $1.15 per mile). If this option suits to your needs, then all you have to do, is to go on the website to buyer registration page and request the purchase. Just fill out the requested information on that page, and within a maximum of 24 hours, an invoice regarding the purchase will be issued to you. The invoice should contain detailed information about the transaction, like insurance, shipping process, bill of sale, payment instructions, etc.. Basically all you need to know about your purchase. That’s essentially the online buying process but I should also mention that, when purchasing, you get 7 day money back guarantee, which costs nothing and should give you the chance to decide on the boat, even before I get paid for it. The pre-delivery inspection will have an PVT representative on site who should answer your questions and show you everything works. The boat was also pre-inspected before being listed for sale. To end, the entire purchase process (payment options, shipping, guarantees, return policy, etc.) is described on the website, on the how it works page. Just read this page to better understand the process, I’m sure they do a better job explaining things than I do. That’s all for now, but if you have questions, I’ll be more than happy to assist.
Due to coronavirus (COVID-19) safety precautions, we currently have limited customer service staffing. Consequently, for the moment, the Telephone Support is available only for registered clients with active transaction in progress.
We offer our service on eBay, Boattrader, Craigslist, Kijiji and Gumtree, which are the largest marketplaces in the world, and we have many active transactions. For this reason, we offer 3 (three) types of Customer support: Customer Telephone Support (+1 888-xxx-xxxx or +1 914-xxx-xxxx), Live Chat Support and eMail Support ([[email protected]](mailto:[email protected])). Whenever You have an inquiry and wish to Contact Us, just use one of the the options mentioned above, based on Your Customer status.
Based on Your request, we have searched for the Inventory Number 244265 into our database. The following information have been generated:
Seller: Robert (xxxxxxxx)
Good standing since 01.22.2014
Identity Information Verified
Committed to dispute resolution and mediation
Continues to meet strict seal membership criteria
Disclose pricing, shipping and return policies in a clear and accurate manner
Respond to disputes filed and participate in mediation, if Buyer requests
Commits to meeting DTC Motors Group Standards
Item Title: 2003 Chaparral Signature 260
Item Location: Item placed into DTC Motors Group Storage Facility – Syracuse, NY, United States
We currently do not have any active transaction for this Item.
If You would like to purchase the Item online and have it delivered to Your address (to benefit of the online services), You can request that on Buyer Registration page.
Note: By registering a transaction with us, You agree, engage and commit to complete the purchase of the Item for the price established with the Seller or the one mentioned on the Inventory page, under DTC Motors Group Terms and Conditions for online transactions.
If You prefer to have the Item inspected and picked up at the warehouse location, in order to set up an appointment and reserve the Item for You, follow the below instructions:
According to DTC Motors Group Terms and Conditions, Local Inspections or Pick Up transactions are accepted only prior to having an active transaction for the Item in subject, and based on a settled appointment.
Due to the large volume of Items stored in each warehouse (we are obligated to protect Customers interest) and due to COVID-19 safety restrictions, our warehouses’ locations are private areas restricted for public access. In order to set a date for inspecting the Item You are interested in, You must provide the following information:
Inspection Date and Time (Monday thru Friday, 9:00 AM – 5:00 PM)
Full Name, Address and Contact Information of the person that will inspect the Item
Scanned ID, Driving License, Passport of the person that will inspect the Item (personal information can be covered)
COVID-19 negative test (requested to be shown at entrance)
Further information will be provided by our main office from New York, NY, United States, directly to the person who will inspect the Item and as the Buyer of the above Item, You are fully responsible if the inspection appointment is missed. Consequently, You will be liable if the inspection date is missed, and will bear handling charges if it will not take place.
Note: By submitting the request, You understand, agree and engage to bear the inspection charges: US $120.00.
Not providing the requested information in Your next message, will lead to no further assistance in the inspection request, as we will consider it unreal. Customers must understand that an Inspection appointment or local pick up transactions, involves special processes (i.e. Stuff to answer questions, Technical Team assistance, equipment required for such processes, etc.), and in order to assure the appointment will take place, Buyers must meet the terms mentioned above.
The time frame to provide the requested information cannot exceed 24 hours. We are sorry for the inconvenience but we have more inspection requests for the above Item, and consequently we need to schedule all the inspection requests in real time, in order to avoid a possible overlap.
If You are not comfortable providing the requested information online, You are invited to personally schedule the appointment, at one of our Office Locations.
Additional Info: Customers should be aware that Telephone Support is not available to our warehouses location as those are just storage facilities. Any request on that will not be treated. In order to schedule an inspection/pick up appointment, Customers are requested to follow the above instructions.
Important Usage Guidelines: According to DTC Motors Group Terms and Conditions, upon arrival to the storage area, items are verified by the DTC Motors Group Technical Inspection Team for quality, physical condition (engine compression, electrical and mechanical malfunctions, service history, etc.). When an Item is listed for sale, we compare the original description and pictures with the actual Item. We only allow photos of Items that are listed. As a Buyer, our 7 Day Money Back Guarantee program gives You the certainty that You will receive the item You are paying for. For more information on how we protect You, please visit our 7 Day Money Back Guarantee section.
Completing online transactions with DTC Motors Group is simple, safe and secure as we do not release Your payment to the Seller until You receive and accept the Item. If the Item is returned, full amount is refunded to the Buyer. For more information, please check our How It Works page.
Thank You for using and trusting DTC Motors Group services!
DTC Motors Group Support Department
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